Lady’s Fingers, co-written and performed by Ella Hakin, Alice Bebber and Holly Bancroft, follows three young women navigating the corporate world with a mix of clown, choreography, and comedy. Presented by Penny Drop and produced by Brave Mirror, the show returns after a sold-out run, exploring work-life absurdities with wit and charm. AYP holds this exclusive dialogue with Holly, Alice and Ella.
What inspired the creation of Lady’s Fingers? How did the idea for this come about?
Holly Bancroft: When we got out of university and we were entering the corporate world for the first time, we wanted to make a show about what we were feeling and noticing. It ended up being this!
Ella Hakin: I think that the interview processes, the endless job hunt, or what felt endless, was exhausting. We wanted to put a fun spin on that as well I think, we got a lot of inspiration from going to Edinburgh Fringe, from seeing our friends do other shows and things like that.
HB: And through studying theatre,
EH: Yeah through studying theatre!
HB: We all met on the same course. We really loved studying clowning there – it’s an entertaining way of talking about serious things whilst also making fun of them.
The show explores themes of navigating the corporate world as young women. What personal or collective experiences shaped the way these themes are explored in the play?
EH: As we said before, the seemingly endless job hunt and interviews, but also the constant need to prove ourselves and the expectation of knowing what we wanted to do with our lives! Feeling like having to show off but not really having the confidence to do so.
HB: When we took a closer look at how people perform in a corporate setting, we became interested in how silly they are. Saying many thanks and kind regards over and over and over again. No one actually believes it! You could write the angriest email and end it ‘kind regards’ and we thought that that was hilarious.
EH: The rules of the corporate world –
HB: – and the performance –
EH: Yeah! The performance of all of those structures and then also the things that we’re expected to just know! The quirks of going into the working world when they are actually quite bizarre and how it only suits certain people.
The show mixes humor and absurdity with deeper reflections on professional and personal relationships. How do you strike the balance between comedy and these more serious, relatable themes?
Alice Bebber: Leaving university and trying to work out what you want to do can be quite a lonely experience. I think through humour, and creating a show where we can bring everyone together and all laugh at it, means that you’re not feeling like you are the only one in the room that it’s going wrong for. I think that through comedy it allows everyone to go ‘oh no, it’s okay! We’re all feeling like this, it’s a bit s**t.’ We wanted to play on that and bring everyone together and make a show with the audience, to bring them closer into this communal experience, so that it’s not so lonely!
HB: Mmmhmm (in corporate affectation) ‘create a sense of community’
HB, AB & EH: (all in corporate voices, clicking) ‘create that community’
The production has been described as fun and uncanny. How does the use of clowning and choreography enhance the storytelling?
HB: Clowning is funny but also a lot of people are afraid of it. I think that that encapsulates how we were feeling going into the corporate world, looking at the way it’s structured and thinking that it’s so silly but also terrifying. With these stereotypical ‘finance bro’ characters that we play – we put on a sort of drag-esque performance as little girls in massive suits, pretending to be these men. Once you hold up a magnifying glass to all the rituals that these men perform it’s so ridiculous and absurd – clowning around that subject felt like the right way to approach it.
EH: I think whilst looking for jobs we did a lot of laughing at ourselves. It feels so unnatural to go from your normal life, where there is a lot of what feels like authenticity and honesty and chatting to your friends and family and that’s your network. And then going on to your network – a corporate or a job-based thing, was so absurd for all of us and laughing at ourselves as a way to cope.
HB: Coupled with the anger of looking at men doing well and feeling like we’re not doing well, partly as women. We wanted to make something fun out of that rather than just scream.
AB: On that note, none of us are dancers, and I think that there is something really fun about not knowing what we’re doing but wanting to do it anyway. That’s the choreographed element of it, we all really enjoy it but don’t really know what we’re doing! We don’t have any formal dance training – but it means that we’re having fun with it and that’s what we want people to take away from it, that you can try new things, even while knowing that they can’t be put on a CV.
How has it been working with Brave Mirror? Has working with a production company changed any of the way that you work?
EH: It’s been great working with Brave Mirror! When we did the first iteration of this show it was three of us doing as much as we could – everything – biting off more than we could chew. Whilst it was a really great experience, we needed a bigger team and a bigger community of people to share this show with. To not be so perfectionist about it and not be private about it, to instead share it with as many people as possible as that’s fun! And share the process as well.
HB: And also theatre is hard to make. I don’t think many people realize how much work goes into a show and how little payoff there often is. Having Brave Mirror’s help also ties in with the message of the show. You’re allowed to ask for help and not know what to do.
AB: I think the nature of doing a devised show is that it can be quite nerve wracking because you’re all in a room together making new things and you don’t have the outside eye. So when devising, actually having the safety net of someone producing it creates a safe space to make something –
EH: A structure –
AB: Yeah a structure to it, which I think really helps with devising.
What do you hope audiences take away from Lady’s Fingers?
HB: We’ve done this show before but this version is a reimagining with a lot of new things in it, while keeping the same fun from before. If people have seen it, there’s a lot more to come back for. It’s a very different show and I’m very interested to see what people think of it, whether they’re a new audience member or if they’ve seen it before – I’m intrigued to see people’s reactions to the changes.
EH: I think ultimately we want the audience to have fun, no matter what they take from it, it is going to be, hopefully, an enjoyable experience and as Alice said before, a shared experience. We’re inviting them into our brains and to our little worlds and that’s really exciting to be doing that in two cities, to expand to shows in London and Bristol and to share that with more audiences.
AB: Exactly.
Lady’s Fingers will run at The Hen & Chickens Theatre on the 23rd & 24th Feb.