We sat down with Alex Tay who has curated a concert at Wigmore Hall, London, on the 22nd February. Featuring pioneering ensembles EXAUDI and GSBR Duo, anyone attending will hear cutting-edge music about frostbitten giants, manic delusion, and ethereal lighthouses, composed by Alex and some of today’s most exciting experimental artists – Joe Bates, Cassie Kinoshi, and Linda Catlin Smith. Tickets here
Your upcoming concert explores themes like frostbitten giants, botany of the mind, manic delusion, and ethereal lighthouses. What drew you to these vivid, abstract concepts, and how do they shape the emotional landscape of the music?
The concepts have come from each composer taking part in the concert – it was more exciting to see what the lineup inspired in each of us! If I can expand on each image given a little, my piece draws from the life and death of Tony Hsieh, venture capitalist and ex CEO of Zappos, who believed he was turning into a crystal towards the end of his life and made nitrous oxide a regular habit. His death by fire (it’s unclear whether it was suicide) is a tragic irony considering he was the author of Delivering Happiness. I probably wouldn’t have noticed the news story if Hsieh didn’t have Taiwanese heritage – skin deep but my mum’s from Taiwan so it struck me. I kept reading and thought about everyone lost in my life, the isolation of feeling culturally or socially other and the need to self-validate by being the most successful (in Hsieh’s case money seemed to have been the validating factor, hence the title of the piece money & yes) but also the deep intoxicating desire for acceptance and communal love and this inner contradiction forcing out explosive, violent escapism. Oh and the piece is dedicated to my m8 and incredible violinist Enyuan Khong, shoutout 2 https://www.instagram.com/khongenyuan?igsh=NWw2cm96eXMwb254 .
Alterity is a theme in Joe’s piece too, which augments Exaudi’s voices with live electronic wizardry. His piece draws on passages of Rabbelais’s Gargantua and Pantagruel, 2 titular giants. In the novel, shouts, cries and other battle sonorities are thrown up in the sky and frozen as shouts and this metaphysical psychedelia is totally infused through Joe’s fantastical sonic conjuring of the text.
The front of our programme is another literarily informed piece, written by the true headliner of our gig, Linda Catlin Smith. The Lighthouse draws on Virginia Woolf’s, To the Lighthouse (it’s just come into public domain!), which evokes the vibrancy and glory of everyday life, the stillness and decay in tragedy and sudden loss. We’re so lucky that Linda’s been able to gift us her beautiful rendering of such an influential text.
The collaboration between EXAUDI and GBSR Duo brings together two dynamic ensembles. How did you approach composing for such a unique pairing, and what do you hope their combined sound will bring to the performance?
It’s almost too perfect a combo! The attack of piano/percussion, the sustain of voices, who can deny that fantastic colour, proved in Stravinsky’s Les Noces! And then there’s the character of the ensembles themselves: both Exaudi and GBSR bring such a focus and intensity to performance, the presence on stage is going to be electric. What both ensembles have achieved individually in the realm of new music is so inspiring, they’re fans of each other! Precision, virtuosity, conviction, they have it all! It’s just so dreamy.
You’ve included works by experimental composers Joe Bates, Cassie Kinoshi, and Linda Catlin Smith alongside your own. How did you choose these collaborators, and what connects their music to the themes of your concert?
I’m fans of all their work! And honestly just riding the coattails of their clout. I saw Joe put on a concert in St Martin-in-the-Fields with Sansara, 8 voices, live electronics, microtones, mesmerising. Cassie’s a pure musician, musicality’s popping off out of every neuron in that brain. Kind of just wanted a chance to see what I can learn from her. Oh, and we met when we were both writing for the LSO so I’ve been following all strands of her work ever since! And then Linda what else can you say about such an experimental music titan? I know both Exaudi and GBSR are fans of her stuff, so why not put people who really want to work together together?
I also picked really contrasting vibes! I have a really short attention span and find gigs which do one thing (often really amazingly) just aren’t quite my cup of tea. There’ll be at least one minute of music for everyone! Or 30 seconds? Whatever is cooler.
Anyway tl;dr im a fan
Your piece, described as a ‘meditation on the mania of solitude,’ seems deeply introspective. Could you share how personal experience or broader societal themes influenced this work?
Well you know contrary to popular belief I’m a pretty sad guy, I listen to caroline polachek I go on short walks I make eye contact with cats I drink soy milk. Just kidding, if I can be real for a second (mews), we’re never alone and always alone nowadays blah blah phones social media etc. So much art nowadays talks about the commonly transitory, illusive, immaterial (shoutout 2 Sophie) nature of self-image. Not since the invention of the mirror have we had such a clear grasp on (in a very specific sense) what we are/what we think we are/what we’d like to be. It’s too real, too much, and too honest I have to run away. And now there’s a hall of mirrors too dizzying to fully comprehend ourselves, so we have to outsource to others: validate me by giving me a like or follow please! It’s not original to point this out and its not even original to feel this way. AND YET it’s all I can think about, either directly or indirectly. It would be so great to be anything other than this utterly unoriginal homunculus, can I just have one original thought i my life PLEASE?! Anyway come see our gig on Feb 22 13:00 Wigmore thanks.
Promoting contemporary classical music to new and young audiences is central to this concert’s mission. What do you think makes experimental music accessible, and how do you hope this performance will resonate with younger listeners?
YES, IF YOU ARE NEW AND YOUNG BE THERE PLEASE. There’s £5 for under 35s! If you’re under 35 you’re officially new and young! Seize your youth! Seize the cash discount! Be young and have money! (Just if the discount doesn’t seem to be applying log out and back in again).
I just want to say things to people who might get them and I want to say things which are relevant to people’s lives. Like a conversation! That’s not to say old things can’t be relevant, the Roman Empire lives on through Paul Mescal. But I want to make/curate things that people can see themselves in because you have to step into something to be transformed.
I don’t know if this concert is accessible! I’ll be surprised if everyone tells me it is. But I do know that I and every other artist involved in this concert is bursting at the seams. We have so much to give! Don’t you want to hear it?