IN CONVERSATION WITH: Ava Hickey



I think the play explores the experience of young people in the care system and the pressures on young women today in a thrilling way. It’s also exciting to imagine interacting with figures from the past and to bring them to life on stage. It’s clever to compare the things that have changed or haven’t changed in society – to see it right there in front of you in the theatre. In 2025, we don’t 100% know how people from 1700 or 1800 spoke or how they moved – but to imagine those things/make those choices is fun for the actors playing those roles and satisfying for an audience to watch. The Kelton Hill Fair features Billy Marshall, a figure from Scottish travelling culture – it’s exciting to represent this history on stage today and also offers insight into Scottish folklore. I hope young people will see themselves reflected onstage in Flo’s story, whilst also learning from the historical and folklore elements.


Working with this team is one of the most exciting things – actors and creatives I’ve admired for years. I first watched Julie Wilson Nimmo in Balamory when I was 4 years old so getting to be on stage with her is so cool! The set and sound design are amazing and we all have a lot of fun in the rehearsal room. Flo doesn’t leave the stage for any length of time at all really, so the most challenging thing for me is knowing that once the train leaves the station then that’s it – we’re off. It’s a big journey and although it’s challenging, everyone is super supportive and it’s exciting to discover it fresh every time. 


In the play, we see some dramatised depictions of these historical figures. They’re all connected to Dumfries and Galloway, which is where the play is set. 

It’s enjoyable to take people from different decades/centuries and put them in a boiling pot together and see what happens. It’s surreal that every night I get to learn about Billy Marshall, teach Hare about Ant and Dec and hear a brand new Burns poem hot off the press

You’re also a writer and co-founder of The Showmen’s Theatre Company. How does your experience as a performer influence your writing, and do you see yourself bringing more original stories to the stage in the future?

I co-founded The Showmen’s Theatre Company with Yana Harris and Bailey Newsome in 2022. We are all actors and Scottish Showpeople from the travelling fairground. We created the company to make theatre about our specific community and to offer up some positive representation in an entertaining way. Travelling communities aren’t well documented. There are so many fascinating stories untold and we don’t often see ourselves positively represented in the media or on stage. With our theatre company, we plan to help change this – much like Wonder Fools with The Kelton Hill Fair.

The Kelton Hill Fair will be playing at Theatre Royal Dumfries from March 21-22 and at Theatre Tron in Glasgow from March 25-29

HIGHLIGHT: Q+A with Spencer Williams

Interview with composer, playwright, choral director and musical theatre educator Spencer Williams, a co-writer of For Tonight. For Tonight will be showing at the Adelphi Theatre for one-night-only, on the 5th September. Book tickets here: https://lwtheatres.co.uk/whats-on/for-tonight/#info

How would you describe For Tonight? 

For Tonight is a story about three siblings as they try to uncover their past to understand their parent’s untimely death during the cholera pandemic in the 1830s. As writers, we wanted to create an epic musical that blended the unique musical traditions and cultures of the Welsh and Romani people, as well as write music that could be heard on the radio today. As it’s inspired by my ggg-grandfather’s journals, it’s been incredible to delve into my family history and the life and culture of North Wales. You’ll hear beautiful choral music, indie-rock, soaring melodies — all of which you’ll walk out of the theatre humming. It’s a beautiful, authentic, heart-wrenching story about love, loss, grief, and hope.

For Tonight, is inspired by true events, based on your own great-grandfather’s journal. How did you come across the journal and what was the process like turning his own words into a musical?

My mother gave me his handwritten journals, just before my own grandmother passed away. I sat down one day and began to read, and I was struck by my ggg-grandfather’s courage of leaving his small hometown in North Wales and ultimately traveling across the world and emigrating to America, and ultimately ending up in Ogden, Utah. I had so many questions… how does one ultimately decide to leave everything behind, sight unseen, and get on a boat? How do you get to the point of that decision of leaving everything behind? What was it like to live in the mid-1800s? What were the political and social issues of the day? The questions and inquiry hasn’t stopped since I read those pages over 10 years ago. It’s been a fascinating journey of my own — traveling to Wales, Liverpool, Isle of Man, interviewing folks and reading/researching — uncovering the world of my ggg-grandfather. One of the most incredible parts is how much I relate to his story — even over a hundred years later. He’s my hero, and has impacted my life in ways that are hard to put into words.

Being rooted in Welsh tradition and music, how important was it for you to represent your family’s nationality and heritage?

One of the most incredible parts of this journey has been to learn about my Welsh heritage. Both sides of my family come from North Wales — the Parry and Williams sides. When I traveled to Trelawnyd, Wales for the first time, there was this sense of “coming home”. There was this feeling of connection to something deeper — it was an absolutely beautiful day (which also happened to be my birthday). Since that moment, we have done everything we can to include Welsh creative and performers to be a part of this journey so that this story was as authentic as possible. And with each person we have brought on — I’ve learned more about my heritage, Welsh language/culture, and it’s really been a powerful experience creating those connections.

For Tonight is a one-night-only musical. What effect, if any, do you think this will have? And is there anything you hope to do with the musical in the future? 

We are so excited to have FOR TONIGHT premiere in the West End as a one-night concert event. We have big dreams for this story to be heard and seen all over the UK — including North Wales, where this story was born. We really believe this story needs to be told and that audiences all over the UK will connect with it! But the biggest dream of all would be a long-running West End production.

Give us two reasons why someone should book a ticket to see For Tonight

#1: I can guarantee that you’ll have an incredible night of theatre — we will have 36 folks on the Adelphi stage — including a cast of 18, 10-person choir, and a full band. It will be an epic night of music and story-telling.

#2: You’ll want to be in “the room where it happens”. This will be an historical evening, something that I believe is only the beginning of the journey. And you’ll be able to say “I was there! I am a part of West End history.”

HIGHLIGHT: Q+A with Eboni Dixon

We sat down with Eboni Dixon whose playing in Good Luck, Studio (from the same creators of the Play that Goes Wrong show). The show runs at the Mercury Theatre (30-15th Oct) followed by Salisbury Playhouse (18th-5th Nov) and Yvonne Arnaud Theatre (8-12th Nov).

  1. First of all – let’s start with can you summarise the show in one sentence?

A sinister comedy that takes a twisted look behind the scenes of a beloved children’s TV show. 

  1. Now can you give us two reasons off the top of your head to see the show?

1 – It is a laugh-out-loud show that is particularly perfect for anyone with a dark sense of humour 😈

2 – It is something a little different from the classic Mischief “Goes Wrong” shows – in the best way!

  1. How about three things to keep an eye out for during the show?

1 – A flexible medic

2 – A cockney frog

3 – A distressed BAFTA

  1. What have you enjoyed most about working with the acclaimed team at Mischief?

I love how collaborative this process has been – being given the opportunity to originate a character in a show like this has been incredible. And of course, working alongside both Henrys and the rest of the Mischief bunch has been an honour and invaluable learning experience!

  1. Finally, are you having nightmares about Wibble the Dragon as you approach press night or are you feeling confident and ready to get going?!

Haha, well, not so much a nightmare, but I did have a dream the other night that I was in a shop looking for frog-related merchandise – I wanted to buy it all! Other than my froggy dreams, no nightmares! Just very nervous and excited!

HIGHLIGHT: Q+A with Eric Henry Sanders

Eric Henry Sanders is an award-winning playwright, screenwriter, film producer, and director from Brooklyn. Sanders’s plays and films have had productions and screenings in London, Paris, Berlin, Edinburgh, and throughout the US. 

He will be teaching narrative and screenwriting at Amherst College in 2023, and is a member of the Dramatists Guild. Recently he co-wrote the book SceneWriting: The Missing Manual for Screenwriters with Chris Perry.

1. What was your inspiration to write Maybe, Probably

I don’t usually write autobiographical plays but if I’ve written any, this is probably it.  

It started when my wife and I started thinking about having a baby and experiencing the craziness that you go through during that process. Of course, it’s different for everyone, and one of the really fun things about rehearsing this play with different groups is that you always get to hear their stories. Three of the four actors and the director have children of their own and they all have their own experiences, but they all play into this story because of the universal human struggle it represents. Even if you don’t have kids or are not considering it, hopefully, you will relate. 

2. As a playwright do you start with the story you want to tell, or do you start with  the protagonist and their objective?  

It was really hard to write this play because it’s not a traditional narrative. This is a love story, but in most love stories the obstacle keeping a couple apart is that they don’t like each other, or there are adverse circumstances like that they are in other relationships. In this play they love each other, and they want to be together, and they are together, so what’s keeping them apart is the fear of what might happen to their relationship should something go terribly wrong with the pregnancy or the baby. Figuring all of that out and building that conflict into the plot as a way to separate the two protagonists took me a long time to puzzle out.  

3. What is your process when starting to write a play?

I always start with my inspiration – a question I want to explore, or an unfamiliar situation – and build out from there. I keep a notebook that I don’t mind scribbling away in – there’s always a lot of bad writing and rewriting before you are able to get  to the good stuff. Inspiration usually hits when I’ve let down my guard, like just as I’m falling asleep, but it’s important to scribble those notes down. . The next step is to compile all those messy notes into a rough outline. I believe in the maxim that all great writing is rewriting, so then the process becomes about refining the work over and over again.   

There’s a saying “write what you know,” which I don’t believe. I think if you have technique, you can write whatever you want. But inevitably your life will bleed into it anyway. You can’t help that.  

My first draft of this play was probably eight years ago. This play was supposed to happen pre-Covid and the delay gave me an opportunity to continue refining the script. Every time I develop it, it changes a little bit and hopefully it gets better and better each time. 

This is my twelfth full-length play. I haven’t published most of them, and this is to the point that plays are never really done. Even tonight there were a couple of lines I wanted to edit in order to tighten them up.

4. Do you workshop your work and collaborate with actors to develop your plays? 

Of course, you have to. You must hear it out loud and get good actors and people that are enthusiastic about the text and willing to do it.  

I’m a very structural thinker when it comes to writing and I find that when an actor knows how to create a beat it’s because the structural underpinnings of a scene are working. I try to give actors a specific goal in each scene and across scenes, something that they want and need from the other characters around them. From scene to scene there are specific scene desires, and when you’re writing, you have all these broad ideas and you start to arrange them in order toward that overarching desire. But those little scene desires are what propel the scene along; you can imagine it as a staircase where every scene gets bigger and bigger until the conclusion of the play. By contrast, when an actor is struggling with a beat or a scene, it’s often because I haven’t given them a specific enough goal to pursue. Figuring that out in readings and development is critical to the revision process for a script. 

5. And do you know the ending of the play when you are still in the process of  conceptualizing? 

There are only four endings: There’s the happy ending where the protagonist gets what they want, so the lovers get together; there’s the sad ending where they are irrevocably parted; and there are two ironic endings, the ironic happy one where they get what they wanted but they realize it’s not what they truly wanted, and there’s the ironic sad ending which is they didn’t get what they want but there’s this better thing over here. I’ll usually have an idea about the tone I want to create with an ending and which of these four choices best suits the particular play I’m working on.

6. What are the main differences between putting on a play in London compared to the US?  

The two places I end up working, more often than not, are New York and London, and there are a lot of similarities. One major difference is about how a play gets put on – how a venue is selected – but once you’re in it, I feel like brilliant people are brilliant people no matter where they are, and there is incredible talent to be found no matter where you are working.

7. One of the things that stood out to me in the play tonight was the naturalist  and unapologetic writing. The actors were constantly interrupting each other as  happens in real life as well. Did you write that in the script? 

I absolutely love puzzling out dialogue, how a character speaks and what their preoccupations are. Part of the fun is following a character’s flow of thoughts even if it is contrary to, or ignored by, other characters on stage. For example, I love to find those moments when characters are following their own thoughts in parallel, as people do in real life. When this happens, it often leads to characters interrupting each other. I believe that the audience can be incredibly astute about following multiple tracks and it can be a wonderful way to engage them in the action of the play. 

And fortunately I’m working with brilliant actors – Cory English, Christy Meyer, Maria Teresa Creasey, and Lance Fuller – all of whom are magnificent at finding those rhythms of speech. They are also wonderful at taking the script’s punctuation seriously, looking for those dashes where interruptions happen. In one rehearsal I was like “you know there’s a dash at the end of that line?” and the actors immediately were cutting each other off the next time and it made the scene work so much better. And for people who are writing a lot, you’ll start to hear the music in it and once it gets to that rhythm the conversations are so natural. 

One thing I talk about in my book is that if every line is like 20 syllables long, the audience is going to get bored so even if you have important things to say, you have to vary the length, vary the rhythm and explore things like having people cutting each other off.

And again, I also realized you can really respect your audience because they’ll get it, they’ll hear what is being said  even if characters are talking over each other because  we, as humans, do that all the time. 

Another aspect of dialogue that I love playing with is the nonlinearity of subject matter. Conversations can encompass multiple subjects and bounce around between them because, again, that’s what we do in real conversations all the time and audiences will get it. I always apologize to my actors, though, because that nonlinearity can make memorizing a script much more difficult. But once they have it down, as this cast does, the dialogue sings.

8. How can actors be better facilitators of your work? What do you seek in actors  that work with you? 

I’m going to give two answers because in auditions I love to see strong choices even if it’s not necessarily what I saw when I wrote the character, but I love to see an actor who really grabs an idea and runs with it. Often in auditions if the first reading is hesitant, it doesn’t work as well.  

The next thing I look for is in the rehearsal space where  an actor is given the opportunity for feedback and direction. Even in production, like tonight, we had a change in the play from previous nights and the actors were able to integrate some new ideas brilliantly. As in the writing process where revision is so important, I love working with actors on refining a performance and bringing out nuances that often none of us saw at the outset.

9. What does the future hold for this play? And are you already in the process of  writing a new play or movie? 

With the success of this production, I would love to see it transfer to a West End venue, if I possibly can make that happen, and there’s been some talk about that. I’m lucky enough to be working with such a special group of gifted performers, and they have dedicated themselves to the text beyond anything that a writer could hope for, so I would love to reward their efforts with more exposure in addition to the accolades that they have already received. 

As for next projects, I have a reading in Massachusetts of a new play I’m developing, Play With Time, about the classical composer Philip Glass and an interview that took place between him and the artist Fredericka Foster. They were asked to speak on the subjects of Buddhism, physics, art, and time as material for an article that came out a year or two ago for Nautilus Magazine. It was a relatively short article but I received permission to use the two and a half hour-long conversation as the raw material for a new play. I’m extremely excited about the resulting play which I am currently developing with Donald Sanders (no relation), who is an incredible director and brilliant thinker in his own right. And I always have new writing in the works.

HIGHLIGHT: Q+A with Christine Kavanagh

We sat down with Christine Kavanagh who plays Mrs Bingley in Stephen Daldry’s production of JB Priestly’s classic thriller An Inspector Calls on a 30th anniversary tour of the UK.

  1. An Inspector Calls is an absolute classic in the theatre world – how does this production bring a new light or energy to a play most audiences will have experienced already?

We are lucky that An Inspector Calls is studied so much in schools, and so we can bring this production to people, and we love having schools in our audiences, other works are not performed nearly so frequently. People often think of plays like this as being stuffy period dramas, but the reason this production by Stephen Daldry is a landmark production is that it is given its full weight. It was first staged in 1945 in Russia and written as an experimental piece of theatre, and this production stays with that. Everything you think you’re going to see at the theatre is turned on its head. You think you’re going to see a costume drama, but it seems to be 1945, you think you’re going to see a set that is grounded but it appears to be floating mid-air. I cannot urge people to come along to see An Inspector Calls enough, not just because of this incredible production but also because the actual message of the play is so important – that we are all responsible for each other and that privilege and wealth need to be examined. It’s not a bad message for our times. It’s not a play that people see that frequently, and if it’s your first experience of theatre then it’s a great place to start.  

  1. Stephen Daldry, your director, has a fantastic track record – how have you found the rehearsal process? Is it part of your career’s allure/benefits to work with a range of directors in your career and experience different approaches?

I’ve been fortunate in my career, as I have been in the business over 40-years, to have worked with some truly great directors including Trevor Nunn, Simon Godwin and now, Stephen Daldry! Of course, it goes without saying that there are some directors who you wish to work with, and Stephen Daldry is most definitely in that category. He thinks outside the box, which is what most great directors do, he has quite an eclectic career and amazing curiosity. In rehearsal it has been a treat as he seems eternally youthful and still has the joy and love of theatre. It was like having a masterclass because Stephen is the originator of the production. My advice to young people is definitely try and work with great directors, and work with great work. When you choose your audition pieces, choose great writing whether it is contemporary or classic. Always choose the best and lean on that strength as well as your own talent. It’s a marriage made in heaven to work with a wonderful director on a great script. 

  1. It’s a big tour you’re embarking on – how do you find all the travel and performing in the same show for so long?

It’s very simple – Angela Lansbury was once asked ‘how do you learn your lines?’ and her reply was ‘It’s my job’. I would suggest this would apply to touring as well, it’s my job! You always have to know what you’re getting yourself in for that this is a touring production with long hours and hard work but it’s a fantastic play and great company. You do have to look after your health and find good accommodation but it is a treat. You meet new people, you meet young audiences and you get to experience art galleries and museums across the countries. It’s a great job! 

  1. Are there any parts of Mrs Birling’s character that you really resonate with? 

Not much, she is a monster, and I am quite a pleasant person, and I have a sense of humour and she doesn’t, but I absolutely do resonate with the fact that she is a very opinionated person, and let me tell you, I am quite opinionated too, but hopefully with more charm and humour than her. I suppose the strongest resonance is that we are both mothers, matriarchs. I don’t resonate with her much at all, but she is a fantastic character to play.

  1. Are there any themes in the play that people might not normally notice that you’d like to point out for them to experience An Inspector Calls in a new way?

Oh I think you should come and see the show and find out for yourself! However, I would say that a theme people don’t often think too much about is time. Priestley messes with time, as does Stephen Daldry. We look at the past and find out how the past affects the future and wanting people of privilege to examine their privilege. The play was written in 1945, during the Second World War, and set it in 1912, just before the First World War. Here we are in 2022 with war happening across the globe. A great line from the play is “We don’t live along, we are members of one society” and we are all responsible for each other, which is not a bad lesson to think about today. The play includes discussion of the exploitation of women, of strikes and of the disparity of pay and wealth, all of these timeless themes. 

  1. Finally – what do you prefer – the stage or the studio (for TV)?

They’re all different, but they are all the same principal – acting. The one that I really love actually is radio, but I do love it all! 

(Tickets and dates can be found here) www.aninspectorcalls.com